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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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hey what's up guys ryan spreck here from

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somewhere in the skies and welcome to

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what i hope is gonna be fun a watch

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along we're gonna be watching 2000 the

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year 2000's documentary uh the shag

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harbor ufo incident um this was a really

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cool dock that came out all about the

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famous nova scotia ufo crash um i've had

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the pleasure of going to nova scotia

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twice now and uh got to see where this

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thing supposedly crashed into the water

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i met with several of the eyewitnesses

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who were kids at the time when it

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happened but are still talking about it

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today and there was a really good

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documentary that came out about it it

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was um directed and written by michael

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mcdonald

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and that name

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might sound a little familiar to some of

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you guys um yeah

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sorry um i'm probably gonna get a

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copyright strike for that but i thought

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it was well worth the dad joke no it's

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not that michael mcdonald it is another

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michael mcdonald who made this

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documentary jason what is up my man

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parker hello hello to space paul's is

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the game good people are talking about

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pokemon in the chat yeah guys let me

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know duke of dank is here market v

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studio stopped by i know you're at work

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thanks brother thanks for stopping in i

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really appreciate that

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um but yeah we're going to be watching

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the documentary tonight um this film

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comes from let me get this right ocean

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entertainment i want to give them proper

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credit for what we're going to be

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watching tonight um yeah and you're

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going to recognize some familiar faces

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from the ufo world in the documentary so

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yeah that's what we're going to do

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tonight we'll do some commentary during

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the dock and um and yeah see what you

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guys think about the shag harbor ufo

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incident um but before we do that um i

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just want to let you know that uh we

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released a new episode of podcast

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yesterday um teddy what's going on man

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hello to teddy zink

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hello to martin hello hello thank you

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everyone for stopping in tonight for

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this watch along um

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uh what was i talking about already oh

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we had a new podcast episode drop

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yesterday uh the denise stoner

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abductions the alien abductions of

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denise stoner and her husband ed so i

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um kind of chronological order

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uh testimony from denise stoner he's

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claimed alien abductee who had some

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crazy experiences very crazy as you hear

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in the episode but not just by herself

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she actually had these with her husband

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um so they had suffered missing time um

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several times in their life and as they

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yeah you could check that out right now

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wherever you get podcasts i had some

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amazing voiceover actors do the voices

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the hypnosis sessions that denise and

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her husband did um they went under to

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unravel these memories and yes hypnosis

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is very controversial so make a bit what

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were very fascinating a little scary and

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super strange so go head on over to

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somewhere in the skies.com to listen to

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that right now or get it wherever you

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get your podcast um what else is new oh

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tonight

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if you guys want to join me in the watch

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along i'm going to be drinking some

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scotch

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lovely lovely bottle comes to us from

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scotland the dalmore 12th year 12 year

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the incredible opportunity to go to um

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oxford and uh

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cambridge and london and scotland and i

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got to go to loch ness and that was

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pretty cool i should show you this

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this is a planter of

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little messy here but the planter is not

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from scotland but the rocks are i

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actually i don't know if i should have

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done this i know it's bad to steal

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certain things from certain regions like

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in hawaii it's really really frowned

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upon there um bringing stuff home with

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you that's from the island um

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but these rocks are actually from loch

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ness so i shall forever cherish them

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forever and ever and ever

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um what else do we got over here oh

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if you guys haven't

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read skinwalkers at the pentagon i can't

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recommend it enough it's one of the

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craziest books i've ever read and you

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know make of it what you will about the

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pentagon program skinwalker ranch but um

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this book has some of the most wild

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stories supposedly to come out of

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skinwalker ranch so check it out if you

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and i'm also reading this book

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incredible the illustrated history of

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ufos and it is by adam i'll such

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boardman i wanted to get his name right

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adam boardman and this illustrated book

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incredible i mean look it he goes by the

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decades so you've got the maury island

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incident you've got

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what else do we have yeah he goes decade

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pretty cool um where is it oh it's right

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at the end actually this really cool

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illustrated like thing of all different

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cryptids and aliens that have been

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where is it oh here we go and

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here is an illustrated couple pages of

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um ufo researchers like caricatures or

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portraits of them so cool you can see

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um stanton friedman heineck of course

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really really cool so um if you haven't

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check this book out um you can get it

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wherever you buy books as well

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and i think that's it that's it for like

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news and stuff guys check out the show

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um hello to

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big snoot is here hello hello hi jason

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right on he says

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what we're going to do tonight guys is

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and um i know that might sound a little

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like i put no effort into this and um

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honestly i really didn't but i did put a

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lot of effort into the shag harbor ufo

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incident itself um

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i wrote a huge article um last year i

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the trail of the saucers which is on

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medium it's a writer's collective of all

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different types of people who write

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about ufos and i did you know

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the famous shag harbor incident that

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tonight so um if you haven't read that

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sprague shag harbor and it should pop up

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for you um let me know what you think of

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the article i might even bring up some

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of the stuff in it later after we watch

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whatever they did the work for me this

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time man but um it's gonna be fun so i

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would say guys sit back relax get

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yourself a drink the doc is about um i

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mentally prepare for that uh i might

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stop it a couple times and just chat

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annoying i won't do that but um let's go

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that i would announce the new co-host of

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that clearly did not happen and that was

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uh that we were gonna wait a little bit

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we're gonna push it back because we were

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actually waiting on a huge huge

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interview to um to happen

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so that we could you know

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get the co-host on and just really

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hit the ground running and go with a

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amazing interview and today we were able

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pretty intense pretty crazy so i have to

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this co-host on with me to um to really

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unravel what we're gonna be talking

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about i know that's all vague but it's

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all gonna make sense by um

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the interviews being conducted live here

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on youtube on friday this upcoming

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friday at 2 p.m eastern standard time if

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any of that changes i will let you know

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on social media um but you're going to

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know who this guest is on thursday and

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there's a really good reason

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for that um

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yeah yeah so keep your eyes peeled

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specifically on the debrief the news

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media website that i work for and um

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several of my colleagues work for and

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be on the lookout thursday for a

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awesome article coming to you and the

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following day we're gonna do a interview

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so stay tuned for that um so if there's

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nothing else guys i'm gonna go ahead and

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parker i'm sorry man um spotify could

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not pay me enough to have joe rogan on

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my show um

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that's just my own personal opinion i'm

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not a fan of joe rogan i never have been

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i absolutely disdain

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his interview style and um

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and just his

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the way he he um aggressively

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questions his guests which i think is

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very important don't get me wrong

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especially when you're talking about

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outlandish stuff like we do um but

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there's a

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just some underlining aggression in him

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alpha male bs that i just don't i don't

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like but um hey he's got a huge platform

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and unfortunately it caught up to him

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this time and a lot of people called him

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out on his completely bs that he's had

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on a show um having to do with the the

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pandemic and everything so um hey if

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that's what he believes in and he wants

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to promote that on his show like

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he has a right um but there are

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consequences to things like that so you

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know he did admit that hey um maybe i

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should have the counter argument um on

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the show as well and uh if that's what

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you guys want i will do that so either

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that's him bowing to spotify because

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they were probably threatening to pull

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the plug on him i don't know uh but yeah

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hopefully he becomes more

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level-headed and grounded in his

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approach to the pandemic ufos fine um

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even politics whatever but when it comes

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to people's health i think you have to

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be very very careful when you have a

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platform as large as his but i don't

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want to get into that debate i don't

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want to get into that argument if you

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like him cool um but i'm just not one of

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those people so that was my long-winded

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way of saying no joe rogan will not be

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on somewhere in the skies on friday

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um just check in here guys oh yeah that

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little scroll thing at the bottom there

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if you want to help out somewhere in the

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skies uh you super chat is open tonight

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um and super stickers so yeah that's the

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easiest quickest way to support the show

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and all of that money goes right back in

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to producing more content and all the

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ridiculous costs to running a podcast on

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a weekly basis so yeah super chat and

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super stickers are open all night i'll

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put your comments up i'll put your

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questions up if you want to do that and

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um get your thoughts on the doc we're

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gonna watch so

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without further ado

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we have some more people here hello

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hello hi chris

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hi common commando islander

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did i say that

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right jason said it was tough to see

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brogan interview jacques millet i know i

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know that was a tough one um but again

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like

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that's just the way he does it and if

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you don't know that then you should

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probably prepare yourself before you go

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on the show as much as i love jacques

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valley but um yeah yeah we'll leave

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rogan

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there and we will go

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to

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shag harbor incident from the year 2000

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it's going to feel very 2000s uh

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late 90s x-files-esque um but yeah guys

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sit back relax and let's watch

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let me know if the audio comes through

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for you on the dock

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this will be the story of the millennium

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that was a beautiful

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fall evening it was dark you guys

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started the audio

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i noticed

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a couple lights in the sky

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sightings were extend from metro halifax

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everybody knew what had happened that

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night

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for the healthcare secrets

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i don't know it just isn't just as

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incredible we lose something at the

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bottom of the hill and we get to stop

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the hell it's in the water i don't know

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what that thing is down there but it's

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no submarine it's very disturbing very

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[Music]

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i haven't seen anything like it not ever

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since

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or before

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this case does not evaporate

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there were many strange lights in the

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sky over nova scotia that night

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but for the people of shag harbor those

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lights would fall to the earth

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and the eyes of the world would fall on

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shag harbor

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and this case

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[Music]

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a genuine ufo experience transcends the

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individual it transcends the culture and

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it defies interpretation and application

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it changes us in some fundamental sense

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and once you have the type of proof

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that'll come in

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this will be the story of the millennium

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i'm going to be on this podcast in a few

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weeks guys stay tuned for that

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he's a bulldog he goes at it which is

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what you have to do to do a good job on

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recognize that boys

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our ufo dad

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it takes time it takes money it takes

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dedication

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and so chris's work has made

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shag harbor into a meaningful case

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[Music]

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and this case

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could be the one

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[Music]

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on october the 4th 1967 the night of the

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ufo's

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chris styles was 12 years old

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he was one of dozens who saw strange

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lights in the sky over nova scotia that

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night

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that experience

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back on the night of october 4th there

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after leaving the front door of the

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house and racing down through the jason

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streets at breakneck speed

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around to the corner there of the nearby

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warehouse and made my way over the

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tracks here to get a vantage point to

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i remember standing there utterly

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terrified i had the sense that i wasn't

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supposed to be here i wasn't to be this

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close

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and this huge orange sphere was simply

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tracing the shoreline ways out uh coming

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directly toward me i i i'm just gonna

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stop it really quick guys um only

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because

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i want to um i want to actually

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elaborate on what happened before this

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orange thing was seen in nova scotia by

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a lot of these people um i promise i

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won't be butting in this much um but in

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my article about the shag harbor

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incident i'm just going to read here so

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earlier in the night on october 4th

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before people witnesses in nova scotia

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started seeing this around shy harbor um

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at approximately 7

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7 15 pm air canada flight 305 pilots

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captain pierre charbonneau and first

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officer robert ralph were flying over

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quebec about 180 miles west of nova

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scotia everything was perfectly routine

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until they noticed something trailing

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their plant they witnessed a massive

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rectangular shaped object orange in

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color

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makes sense

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gliding through the skies trailing the

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rectangular rectangle excuse me were

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small orange orbs that seemed almost

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like a tail of the main object

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the pilots watched with growing concern

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for several minutes when suddenly there

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was some sort of explosion near this

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rectangle a large white cloud was left

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behind sporadically changing colors from

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red to blue

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but then two minutes later another

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explosion occurred leaving behind a

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similar cloud the pilots watched in

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amazement as the small orbs swarmed

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around the rectangle and along with it

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uh descended into a thick cloud cover

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and disappear out of sight both pilots

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visibly shake and reported the incident

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when they finally landed

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boom and now this drops us into nova

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scotia where witnesses started seeing

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these orange orbs and these lights and

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everything and we'll let the documentary

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take it from there

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kind of felt as if

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it would be like a dog when you run from

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it it would suddenly pounce on you

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[Music]

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i literally felt cold inside i can

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remember it's one of the few times my

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life had felt real

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fear and you know the difference it's

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like when people discuss the difference

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between hunger and sugar hunger

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something the few people in north

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america truly know

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[Music]

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the next morning

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chris received a long-distance phone

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call from his grandfather in shag harbor

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150 miles down the coast

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his grandfather told him that he too saw

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lights in the sky last night

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and that one of those lights had crashed

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into the waters of shag harbor

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[Music]

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i think the shag harbor incident is very

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important because it's one of the very

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few cases where we have some really good

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indication that

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something came down close to military

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systems seen by people

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and it hasn't yet brought forth the

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knives from the noisy nasty negativists

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so much rest in peace my friend hope

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he's finding those answers he always saw

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well this is certainly the spot yeah

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few little changes around here

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see they slapped a coat of paint on the

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building years later

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chris saw a television program about the

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roswell new mexico ufo crash of 1947.

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it reminded him of shag harbor

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from that moment

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shag harbor became an obsession with him

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the shag armor incident is uh unique in

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that it's one of the cases that the more

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data you learn the more witnesses the

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more documentation this case does not

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evaporate

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the more you learn the stronger it gets

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one of the first witnesses chris talked

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to was a fisherman named laurie wickens

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he was driving up through shag harbour

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heading toward woods harbor taking the

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girls home that were with us on the

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night of the ufo's

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young wickens and some of his friends

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were driving home from a dance we

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happened to look off to our right

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i think i noticed them first and see

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some lights flashing in the sky

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i met laurie he is a character one would

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the strange flashing lights followed the

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car along the highway for some time

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wiccans thought the plane was in trouble

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they're flying this way

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tipped that way

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and but we're coming into a hill so we

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can't

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we sight at the bottom of the hell when

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we get to the top of the hell it's in

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and we figured it was a plane crash so

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we went to the nearest phone booth

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called the rcmp

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[Music]

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laurie wickens was the first person to

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report the incident to the rcmp

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detachment

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the officers wasted no time getting to

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the scene of the crash near an irish

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moss plant overlooking the harbor when

558
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,760
officers first drove into the parking

559
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,840
lot of the plant there was already a

560
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,520
crowd of locals gathering that were

561
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:56,880
trying to figure out what was going on

562
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:59,360
over in the waters of the sound

563
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:00,799
what they saw when they got there was a

564
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:03,120
pale yellow light that appeared to be as

565
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,720
much as eight feet above the surface of

566
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,039
the water and it was moving under its

567
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,520
own power it was moving in the direction

568
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,600
of the ebbing tide but it seemed to be

569
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,120
moving at a greater rate than that and

570
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:15,520
it was trailing a wide path of yellow

571
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:23,510
it just looked like a

572
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,559
yellow

573
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,320
globe

574
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,720
that's all we could see

575
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:30,640
somewhat always

576
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,600
craft

577
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,080
three rcmp officers myself and i do know

578
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:35,919
who else was there that watch it just

579
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:41,029
it disappeared different anything i ever

580
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:42,720
see you couldn't it didn't look like it

581
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:44,240
sank it didn't look like it went out i

582
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:47,200
don't know it just disappeared

583
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:48,400
everybody still figured it was an

584
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:50,880
airplane in the light of a plane

585
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,600
we all did even the rcmp

586
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:55,440
they're all thinking that there's people

587
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:57,279
out there either dead or dying

588
00:24:59,909 --> 00:24:58,640
bodies may be floating around in the

589
00:25:07,430 --> 00:24:59,919
water that's what they're thinking

590
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:09,590
whenever there was trouble in the water

591
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:12,240
the rcmp relied on local fishermen for

592
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:13,200
help

593
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,400
lawrence smith

594
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:16,880
was on his way to bed when he received

595
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:22,149
down

596
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:25,360
the sound shag harvard oh my gosh

597
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:27,600
a plane first thing i thought of was

598
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,000
people in the water

599
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,840
we got to play the marker boys and up

600
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,039
through the rocks

601
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:35,520
by the prospect point wharf

602
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,880
and then we opened her up four feet

603
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:41,120
smith and his crew were the first to get

604
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:42,400
underway

605
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:45,200
soon other fishermen raced to the scene

606
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,269
no lights

607
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,039
no people in the water where we thought

608
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:55,440
they would be for a plane crash

609
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,320
and all we found was foam

610
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,200
instead of wreckage rescuers encountered

611
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:04,080
a peculiar patch of foam that stretched

612
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,880
for over half a mile in length

613
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:08,880
and it was very disturbing

614
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:10,640
there was a little smell

615
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:14,240
like sulfur burnt sulfur

616
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:16,000
several local fishermen who witnessed

617
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:17,760
the phone felt most strongly that this

618
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:20,240
was not normal tidal foam besides the

619
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:22,000
fact that they're acquainted with the

620
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:24,080
local conditions i mean there were

621
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,320
several key features it just

622
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,640
made it just stand apart the sparkle the

623
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,400
way it dissipated

624
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:32,320
the sheer amount of it and the density

625
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,159
of it implied something quite unusual

626
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,600
i've been fishing that area for 45 years

627
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:42,400
i i've never seen any foam like that

628
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,720
ever on the water

629
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:46,640
and if you were if you were motoring out

630
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:47,600
through

631
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:50,559
something like that you would

632
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:52,159
you would stop and say what's been going

633
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:00,390
as the fishermen searched the harbor the

634
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,120
rcmp contacted the rescue coordination

635
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,000
center in halifax

636
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,640
the rcc put out an urgent call to

637
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,360
military and civilian sources asking for

638
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:13,760
reports of any missing aircraft along

639
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:16,400
the eastern seaboard from labrador to

640
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,070
coast guard cutter 101 from nearby

641
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:25,760
clark's harbor was immediately

642
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:28,320
dispatched to shag harbor to aid in the

643
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:29,030
search effort

644
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,320
[Music]

645
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,960
it was so quiet and clear and that the

646
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,799
sound travels over water that

647
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,240
they could hear the twin diesel engine

648
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,480
starting up 13 miles away in clarks

649
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,960
harbor and then it raced over probably

650
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,559
about eight to ten knots to get over to

651
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:47,120
the area by the time 101 reached the air

652
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,559
from the nearby life saving station the

653
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,240
foam had dispersed

654
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:52,000
but the boats were still applying their

655
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,840
lights on the water and looking for any

656
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,440
clue as to what may have struck the

657
00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:58,159
water surface again concern ran high for

658
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:00,880
the possibility of survivors

659
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,279
an hour later the word was coming back

660
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,279
from rcc in halifax

661
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,120
that nothing was missing there was no

662
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,960
military aircraft missing no commercial

663
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,320
aircraft missing

664
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,399
no private aircraft that were on flight

665
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:14,159
plans were missing so everybody at this

666
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,760
point is wondering what are we looking

667
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,840
for

668
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,200
something came out of the sky and went

669
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:21,200
into the water at che garber and nobody

670
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:30,950
[Music]

671
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,520
nobody seemed to know what it was that

672
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:36,240
crashed in shag harbor that cold october

673
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,200
night

674
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,840
but everyone agreed something had gone

675
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:41,760
into the water and could still be

676
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:44,159
resting there

677
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,720
perhaps something worth looking for

678
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:50,799
shag harbor was making waves in the

679
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,320
media too

680
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:54,880
newspapers tabloids and even a comic

681
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,360
book jumped on a sensational headline

682
00:29:02,710 --> 00:28:59,440
story written by chronicle herald

683
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:02,720
reporter ray macleod it was not his

684
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,520
usual sort of assignment

685
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:07,520
we had reports of lights going down into

686
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,720
the water and the rsgmp were telling us

687
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,200
that their people had seen it various

688
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:16,000
people and the boats had gone out and i

689
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,440
was on the phone getting everyone i

690
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,840
could to talk to me and gradually

691
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,200
started piecing together what had been

692
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,679
seen that night

693
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:25,679
the contact i had in the armed forces

694
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:27,440
gave me a number to call in ottawa for a

695
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,720
squadron leader

696
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,559
who tells me that he was

697
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:32,640
at the head in a canadian armed forces

698
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,480
unit that

699
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:36,799
basically investigated and catalogued

700
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:39,440
ufos as almost like the american project

701
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:40,480
blue book

702
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,760
which i had never heard of and didn't

703
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:44,240
know existed

704
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:45,679
he said yeah this sounds like an

705
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:47,120
incident that may have something

706
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,720
concrete in it which they made into a

707
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:51,039
headline for the paper

708
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:52,559
in my judgment it became a headline

709
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,360
story because we had rcmp officers who

710
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:57,520
not only saw it but were making public

711
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:04,789
macleod's hunch as a reporter

712
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:07,279
warned him that this official candor was

713
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,240
too good to be true

714
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,840
one of the strange things was that at

715
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,760
that time the rcmp was totally

716
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:15,760
cooperative because they were not sure

717
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:17,840
what happened and what had gone down

718
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,320
and as the story progressed we started

719
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,880
to get less and less from the official

720
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:24,559
source of the rcmp

721
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,600
and more and more from just the ordinary

722
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,600
people in the area who had seen seen

723
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:31,679
something happen and had gone out in

724
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,399
their boats to investigate it

725
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,720
as officials intensified their search

726
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:39,360
and prepared for an immediate dive

727
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:42,240
the locals began to pressure the rcmp

728
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:45,200
for some answers i asked if he found out

729
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:46,720
anything about the plane yet he said

730
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:50,720
they've identified it as a ufo

731
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:52,240
that's what he was talking about more or

732
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:53,039
less

733
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:55,679
he wouldn't say no more than that

734
00:31:02,710 --> 00:30:56,720
smallie would say

735
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:04,389
on october the 7th

736
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:06,480
two days after the crash

737
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:09,600
navy divers from hmcs granby started

738
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:11,519
searching the bottom of shag harbor for

739
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,310
but what this wreckage might be remain

740
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:21,120
unspecified

741
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:23,679
the waters off shag harbor are shallow

742
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,840
and the currents are strong

743
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,240
the navy divers knew if the wreckage had

744
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:30,559
not been swept out to sea they would

745
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:32,570
soon find it

746
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:36,000
[Music]

747
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:37,679
as it turned out they stayed on the dive

748
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,840
until sunday night

749
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:41,679
so that they'd done two and a half days

750
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:44,880
on the dive before they packed up and

751
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,960
took whatever they had into a an old

752
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,240
deuce and a half

753
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:50,720
army vehicle they called old sid

754
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,960
they come in around noon time they had a

755
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:54,320
package

756
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:55,519
which they brought in and put in the

757
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,559
navy divers fan and they left and they

758
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,440
that was the end of all the diving

759
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,440
residents of shag harbor

760
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,600
claim they watched as the military

761
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:07,919
hauled something out of the harbor

762
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,519
when they quizzed the divers about what

763
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:11,279
this was the diver simply responded but

764
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,880
claimed these things were markers they

765
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,640
used on the bottom to keep their

766
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:16,720
orientation

767
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,440
it's hard to imagine that you would have

768
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:21,840
markers that are would have in their

769
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:24,320
description constituted a hazard when

770
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:25,679
you're under the water they were simply

771
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:28,799
quite jagged twisted etc

772
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,880
it just doesn't line up

773
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:32,799
strangely enough if well if you go by

774
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:34,960
the military documents the the divers

775
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,600
found nil that's um not a bit of

776
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:39,120
anything

777
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:48,470
[Music]

778
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,200
so

779
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:51,279
this is where things get kind of

780
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:54,240
interesting actually um they said that

781
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,559
they found nothing under the water

782
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,880
but um in doing some more research into

783
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,960
the case um i did come out with an

784
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,320
episode of someone in the skies about

785
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:04,559
the shag harbor incident with some sound

786
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:07,519
bites from chris styles and also um from

787
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:09,519
jordan bonaparte of the nighttime

788
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,760
podcast came out and talked about

789
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:13,440
the case and what it means to him being

790
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:16,320
from shag harbor where this happened um

791
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,080
but i did want to read this small chunk

792
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:21,840
that i found um

793
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,000
about not finding anything under the

794
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,919
water they might talk about this in the

795
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:28,159
dock i'm not sure i haven't watched it

796
00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,760
in a really long time but i want to read

797
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,279
this to you here

798
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,760
um after the navy said that they didn't

799
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:36,080
find anything under the water

800
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:37,039
um

801
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:39,360
the navy was about to initiate a salvage

802
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:41,840
operation after three days of no

803
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:44,799
movement um to their dismay however

804
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:47,120
another object suddenly showed up

805
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:50,080
underwater shining a light on the sunken

806
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,519
ufo and seemingly trying to aid it

807
00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:55,760
baffled the navy continued to return for

808
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,320
several days straight observing the two

809
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:00,880
objects which were at the time unmoved

810
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:02,960
and inactive things took an even

811
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,519
significant even more significant turn

812
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:07,600
once several of the navy vessels had to

813
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,919
leave their positions to pursue a soviet

814
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,919
submarine that had wandered into

815
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,520
canadian waters

816
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,200
the remaining vessels noted that the

817
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:17,760
objects had seemingly taken advantage of

818
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,720
the situation and they abruptly took off

819
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:22,960
starting to accelerate underwater toward

820
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:25,520
the gulf of maine after a period of

821
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:27,839
chasing the two objects suddenly shot

822
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:31,040
out of the water and into the sky

823
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,800
so that's pretty crazy if we're to

824
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:34,879
believe this um

825
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:37,599
and this does come from chris styles and

826
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:40,399
some files that he was able to uh

827
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,480
to get and people he spoke to who were

828
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:45,200
part of these recovery efforts so um

829
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:47,119
yeah i just needed to add that in there

830
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:49,119
when they said they didn't find anything

831
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,800
um apparently that was the statement

832
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:52,879
given to the public on the other side of

833
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,879
it that thing was getting chased

834
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:57,680
underwater and shot into the sky

835
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:00,640
apparently but i will leave that for you

836
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:03,599
to decide let's get back to the doc

837
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,230
here we go

838
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,160
yeah i am too because i haven't seen it

839
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:13,920
for quite some time and would be nice to

840
00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:16,000
look at it again so sure after you thank

841
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:21,990
[Music]

842
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,390
no one has ever learned what the navy

843
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:26,160
pulled out of shag harbor that week of

844
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,320
1967.

845
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,400
local investigators would have to look

846
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,560
elsewhere for clues to the origin of the

847
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,040
crashed object

848
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,599
one such clue may come from the night of

849
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,000
the ufos itself

850
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,320
photographer wilfred eisner was yet

851
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:44,320
another witness to the strange lights in

852
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:46,160
the sky

853
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,839
they were there for a reason there's no

854
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,599
doubt about that

855
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:51,119
and there were more people that seen him

856
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,400
than myself

857
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,400
eisner and two of his friends were

858
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:57,040
burning an old boat on mason's beach

859
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,040
east of shag harbor

860
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:01,760
on one of these uh times when i

861
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,800
went for driftwood i noticed a couple

862
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,640
lights in the sky

863
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:08,400
walter thank you so much for the super

864
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:11,839
chat i really really appreciate

865
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,440
and i thought well better take a picture

866
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:17,440
he had planned to take photos of his

867
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:20,400
boat for posterity but instead

868
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:22,400
he captured what may be the only

869
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:25,440
existing photograph of the ufos that's

870
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:27,090
it right above where them people are

871
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:37,270
the five-minute time exposure he took

872
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,400
that night

873
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:40,400
yields interesting details

874
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,599
about the nature of the objects

875
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,520
first time i saw this uh slide i was

876
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:47,200
really impressed with the detail on it

877
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:48,880
maybe you can explain

878
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,960
the streaks and the uh the colored

879
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,480
lights in the in the middle of the

880
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:55,119
picture itself well the streaks done

881
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:58,160
were made uh as you can see by the stars

882
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:59,440
and that would be the better part of the

883
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,640
exposure

884
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:02,800
because the earth is moving and these

885
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,480
three lights

886
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:06,320
are obviously stationary and they have

887
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,480
left no streets whatsoever the third

888
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:10,320
light uh would have appeared to me i

889
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:11,520
would presume

890
00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:13,200
at this point in time

891
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,500
as a star

892
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:17,520
[Music]

893
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,320
it left no streak so it was a stationary

894
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,240
object for that duration of the

895
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,240
explosion

896
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:26,240
it's not a helicopter or any such odd

897
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,520
the helicopter couldn't hover in

898
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,280
position like that and stay that way for

899
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,440
five or seven minutes without moving and

900
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:33,599
uh and blurring the image it's quite

901
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,320
incredible

902
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:38,160
i still think it could be a helicopter

903
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,400
well chris stalin i um i figured this

904
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,240
photograph is significant in the in the

905
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,480
fact that it took place about an hour

906
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,800
before the shag harbor incident

907
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,720
we're not uh claiming that this is the

908
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,400
object that went into shag harbor i

909
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,320
don't really believe it was it's just

910
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,920
another one of the objects that was seen

911
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:56,720
that night but it is the ufo and it's

912
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:59,200
quite spectacular looking and we'd like

913
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,880
to know what it is or what shows up

914
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,880
behind those lights

915
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,640
canadian defense department investigates

916
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,960
ufo that died in the north special bay

917
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:09,680
early in the investigation chris styles

918
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:12,480
joined forces with don ledger who had

919
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:14,000
his own sighting on the night of the

920
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:15,839
ufos

921
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:18,800
dawn brought a pragmatic approach to the

922
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,920
ufo investigations he had called me

923
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:24,000
hearing some of my exploits on ufo

924
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,079
matters he became very interested and we

925
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,119
decided to combine forces to

926
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:31,440
try to shed some light upon that case

927
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,400
and the ufo phenomena

928
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,280
the shag harbor incident seems to be the

929
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,599
ufo story that never ends

930
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,200
it seems the more you investigate the

931
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:43,680
shag harbor story the more detail you

932
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,800
get

933
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:46,720
never seems to dry up there's always

934
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:48,320
another detail that comes out another

935
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,720
witness that comes forward

936
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,880
it's a highly anomalous incident that

937
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,440
took place in 1967 and

938
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,200
seems to continue and continue and

939
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:00,480
continue and it still continues

940
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,560
but what of the official investigation

941
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,240
of shag harbor

942
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:06,640
if the military and police were calling

943
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,800
the objects ufos

944
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:10,880
would their official documents provide

945
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:14,320
more details image analysis

946
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,359
through the national archives of canada

947
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:19,599
he was not surprised when he learned the

948
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:22,480
military had a keen interest in shag

949
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:23,599
harbor

950
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:27,760
records group 77 is a hodgepodge of ufo

951
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,320
reports from civilian military and

952
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,079
police sources and gives a whole

953
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,200
cross-section of canadian ufo reports

954
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:37,680
and what they are mostly is is a record

955
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,800
that was compiled and sorted through and

956
00:39:46,990 --> 00:39:42,960
preserved by the national research

957
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:47,000
council i miss those days of microfiche

958
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:51,119
rg77 can you still obtain over 7 000 ufo

959
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,359
documents dating back to 1947.

960
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,040
i knew that there was a microphone

961
00:40:01,589 --> 00:40:00,000
record in ottawa of ufo documents uh i

962
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:01,599
heard it mentioned by other researchers

963
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,440
i tried to read up on as much literature

964
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:05,599
as possible and i just requested

965
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,880
anything and everything they had from

966
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:08,240
that period in the hope that something

967
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:10,160
would have bearing on shag harbor and

968
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,440
indeed we did strike peter in rg77

969
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:16,000
the paid dirt came in the form of

970
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:18,880
official telexes between ottawa and nova

971
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,119
scotia there are a number of documents a

972
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:22,720
number of telexes that went between the

973
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:25,280
bases and the dnd record that show that

974
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:26,560
they thought they were dealing with a

975
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,319
real ufo incident some of the officers

976
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,160
wrote on these documents which have been

977
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,400
preserved on microfilm and perhaps

978
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:36,480
what's even more telling is the margin

979
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:38,720
notes we have three letters scrolled at

980
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:41,680
the top ufo and underlying three times

981
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,520
i've looked at thousands of documents

982
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,880
from various years

983
00:40:48,070 --> 00:40:46,640
and that's the only case where i've ever

984
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:48,080
seen this reaction

985
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,359
[Music]

986
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,440
i've often said i don't know if that's

987
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:55,599
responsible here is extraterrestrial

988
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:58,400
extra-temporal or extra-dimensional but

989
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,839
it was certainly unconventional and uh

990
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:03,680
i think they ran with that premise in

991
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:06,240
ottawa and i think that the priority and

992
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:07,839
the tone of these documents speaks

993
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:09,680
loudly that they were dealing with

994
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,050
something potentially extraterrestrial

995
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,440
[Music]

996
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:17,760
canadian forces stationed barrington

997
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:20,800
lies 13 miles from shag harbor

998
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,839
this norad radar station provided aerial

999
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,760
detection during the height of the cold

1000
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,720
war

1001
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:29,440
chris and dawn wanted to know what role

1002
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:32,800
it played in shag harbor

1003
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,119
norad's the reason i think you guys

1004
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,680
would have been very concerned

1005
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,800
what is it

1006
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,640
who's it

1007
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,480
what are its intentions

1008
00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:44,720
did the various and sundry sensing

1009
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,839
systems in the area detect

1010
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,040
anything where is just gonna pause it

1011
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:51,040
for one sec guys um the fact that we're

1012
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,839
getting to norad really intrigues me and

1013
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:55,520
again i won't be pausing this a lot i

1014
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:58,560
promise um but i thought it would be

1015
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:01,440
interesting to um to say that uh the

1016
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:03,200
interview that you're going to hear this

1017
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:04,319
friday

1018
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,119
with my mystery guest and my mystery new

1019
00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:08,880
co-host uh

1020
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,599
they talk a little bit about this sort

1021
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:13,599
of stuff and what norad does in the

1022
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:16,000
reports that they have and and you know

1023
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:18,960
even shock valet no that is not my guess

1024
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:20,960
um has mentioned in the past that like

1025
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:24,240
nora does track a lot of ufo activity um

1026
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,920
you know as they're trying to detect

1027
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,040
everything that comes into the

1028
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:29,440
atmosphere um but

1029
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,079
any of their files and and data and

1030
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:34,480
documents aren't available to us in the

1031
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:37,680
united states but nate or excuse me

1032
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,560
norad is canadian as well the northern

1033
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:42,560
territories and whatnot so

1034
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,160
they can get the files in canada of what

1035
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,640
happens at norad so

1036
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,480
this is why chris probably went after

1037
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,560
norad to see what the heck they they

1038
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,800
tracked and what he could find from them

1039
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,640
um whereas if we tried to do that here

1040
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,880
in the us from the u.s side of this

1041
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,240
entire thing probably wouldn't get

1042
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,240
anything so um yeah i thought that was

1043
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,000
interesting and you're gonna hear a lot

1044
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:06,480
more about that this upcoming friday as

1045
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:07,280
well

1046
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,640
on the show

1047
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:11,440
all right let's get back

1048
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,640
doing

1049
00:43:15,230 --> 00:43:14,160
and do we have any good solid

1050
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:15,240
information

1051
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:17,119
[Music]

1052
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,640
so what i'm saying is you have to look

1053
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:21,440
at this from a strictly military

1054
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:23,200
defense

1055
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,760
what's going on what can we do about it

1056
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,520
that's a very important consideration in

1057
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,240
today's world hello alien girl

1058
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:32,160
thanks for being here much loved by

1059
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,440
zombies

1060
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:35,280
on other planets

1061
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:36,240
then

1062
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,839
finding out their method of propulsion

1063
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:39,440
finding out what they're made of finding

1064
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,640
how they work

1065
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:42,480
would give tremendous

1066
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,520
military advantage to the nation that

1067
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,359
uncovered that information

1068
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,040
it would be very hot military data

1069
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,640
partly because it may tell you where

1070
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:53,119
you're going

1071
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:55,920
did this radar site detect the shag

1072
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,000
harbor ufo

1073
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,640
uh this is still active it's uh there's

1074
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,400
a landline running out of here somewhere

1075
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:04,079
and it's uh feeding greenwood for a

1076
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,200
western approach and i think you're

1077
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,880
using the halifax probably link through

1078
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,359
to moncton center it's all automated of

1079
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:10,960
course oh it's all on here yeah but it's

1080
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:13,839
still working yeah and uh

1081
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,040
you can certainly see why they picked

1082
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:16,880
the site for the baseline traffic's

1083
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:19,359
constantly going through here uh all day

1084
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,960
long it's up there now probably just

1085
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,880
can't see it if there's something over

1086
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,720
there this thing had a habit on it yeah

1087
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,319
unless of course like a lot of ufo

1088
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:27,839
reports they don't pick them up on radar

1089
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,560
but apparently they did but then again

1090
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,079
liberia they had it they had it over

1091
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,240
northwestern canada and alaska and so on

1092
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,240
you look at mercy's rcmp report he had

1093
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:38,800
returns of his sighting up at sambro

1094
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,000
what yeah

1095
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,240
two hours and a half an hour before the

1096
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,319
decca radar yeah and they had visual

1097
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,400
sightings too you know and one of those

1098
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:48,240
objects was seen to surface and arc

1099
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,710
but at the end of it it's interesting

1100
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,960
that the military still stated that they

1101
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,720
believed that something had indeed gone

1102
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:08,240
into the water and that had been

1103
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:11,359
unconventional they just didn't find it

1104
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,560
it's kind of different from the other

1105
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,480
ufological stories not only in that no

1106
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:16,960
one reported a ufo but in this case this

1107
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,589
or didn't get away

1108
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,950
ooh maybe they are going to bring up

1109
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,040
what i talked about

1110
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,960
please please talk about it people

1111
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:31,200
forget rule number one for security

1112
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,560
you can't tell your friends without

1113
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:34,400
telling your enemies

1114
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:37,520
so you have to deny your own people

1115
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:39,680
history the manhattan project

1116
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:42,319
when the first item bomb was tested

1117
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:45,760
july 16 1945 rather successfully out in

1118
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,440
the middle of nowhere in new mexico

1119
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,119
trinity site

1120
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:50,880
people saw it 100 miles away even though

1121
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:59,910
so a press story went on an ammunition

1122
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,000
dump had blown up and fortunately nobody

1123
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,920
was injured that appeared in a number of

1124
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,839
papers in new mexico had to say

1125
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:07,040
something

1126
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:08,480
they were lying through their teeth but

1127
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:12,250
of course they were and they should

1128
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:16,870
whether you're looking for a crash

1129
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:20,480
saucer a down soviet piece of hardware

1130
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,560
from space or a downed american piece of

1131
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,480
hardware from space

1132
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,400
it's all the same problem

1133
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:28,480
how to mobilize people how to

1134
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,800
package ship where do you do it how do

1135
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,040
you keep other people away

1136
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:35,440
a former staff member of the barrington

1137
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,319
radar station breaks this military code

1138
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,240
of silence

1139
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,400
it had involved a lot of people

1140
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:44,160
it was a big event

1141
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:44,880
and

1142
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:47,040
they had thought that it was something

1143
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:48,480
out of the normal

1144
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:49,359
and

1145
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,200
everybody inside that room

1146
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:52,960
knew what had happened that night and

1147
00:47:03,190 --> 00:46:58,870
his commanding officer about what the

1148
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:03,200
radar actually detected that night

1149
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,640
he had seemed to think that it would

1150
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:05,839
enter the airspace somewhere in

1151
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,800
northwestern canada and sort of wobble

1152
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:10,800
through the atmosphere until it's linked

1153
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,520
into atlantic camp because it almost

1154
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:15,280
hit an airplane somewhere outside of

1155
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:16,319
quebec

1156
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:17,359
and

1157
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:18,800
that it had

1158
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,200
crash landed in shag harbor

1159
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,599
that there was another one tending it

1160
00:47:26,370 --> 00:47:25,839
and that after the event they both had

1161
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,380
moved

1162
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:28,079
[Music]

1163
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:29,920
did the military know

1164
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:32,960
that there were in fact two ufos in shag

1165
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:35,200
harbor and that they'd left the impact

1166
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:36,720
site submerged

1167
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:39,040
coming to rest off the coast near a

1168
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:42,480
top-secret military base 30 miles away

1169
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,680
let's go yes i think that perhaps if

1170
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:48,000
there is evasion and if perhaps there's

1171
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,559
a coordinated cover-up then somebody

1172
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,720
somewhere had to be smart enough that

1173
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,240
that little light bulb went on and they

1174
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:55,440
said look

1175
00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:58,240
what better way we got a bonus situation

1176
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:00,559
here to cover up the ufo attempted

1177
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,119
recovery operation 30 miles away and say

1178
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:05,520
yes guess what we think a ufo crash and

1179
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:06,960
have everybody in all the cameras

1180
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:10,400
pointed at the impact site

1181
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,400
however it still is hard to fathom

1182
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,720
and as much as i disliked the story and

1183
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,640
still dislike the story i had to make

1184
00:48:26,330 --> 00:48:20,160
sense of it and i certainly had to make

1185
00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:37,510
[Music]

1186
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,069
the ufo flap that stunned nova scotians

1187
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,240
in october 1967

1188
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,240
was not the first such incident in

1189
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,430
the story that wouldn't go away has its

1190
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,280
roots in an event that occurred over

1191
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,079
ottawa in 1954

1192
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,319
13 years earlier

1193
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:58,640
i was not aware of this worried that our

1194
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:01,520
skies were under siege from an unknown

1195
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,480
threat

1196
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,559
the department of national defense in

1197
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,319
cooperation with the department of

1198
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:08,960
transport established the world's first

1199
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:12,480
ufo detection station in shirley's bay

1200
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:16,240
10 miles west of the nation's capital

1201
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,280
first

1202
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,119
the government would have preferred to

1203
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:21,520
keep the whole thing quiet

1204
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,630
wilbert brockhouse smith an engineer

1205
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:30,720
with the department of transportation

1206
00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:33,920
was the man in charge of this project

1207
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:35,900
it was his brain child

1208
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:38,720
[Music]

1209
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:39,760
area

1210
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:42,400
smith believed if he could find a flying

1211
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,710
saucer he could duplicate its technology

1212
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:47,520
[Music]

1213
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,119
smith had really put his finger on

1214
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,720
things

1215
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:52,400
he was a scientist he was somebody who

1216
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,119
looked for facts for data for solid

1217
00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:57,200
information on which to base

1218
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,559
whatever his conclusions were

1219
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,319
the people with a serious interest in

1220
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:04,160
flying saucers

1221
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:09,750
smith suspected

1222
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:12,160
that flying saucers worked on magnetic

1223
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,280
principles

1224
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:14,960
geomagnetics

1225
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,359
he hoped to confirm his theories

1226
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,359
if only he could speak to the right

1227
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:21,040
people

1228
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,440
smith

1229
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,880
in addition to being involved with the

1230
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,480
department of transport had strong

1231
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,400
connections with the canadian department

1232
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,000
of national defense

1233
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:33,920
most specifically the defense research

1234
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,589
in charge of the drb was a fellow by the

1235
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,920
name of dr oman solant he was the

1236
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,160
chairman of the defense research board

1237
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,319
solant was a good friend of dr van over

1238
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:47,920
bush

1239
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:50,800
prominent scientist in the united states

1240
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,119
and one of the individuals who was

1241
00:50:58,700 --> 00:50:54,960
allegedly in charge of a group of

1242
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,710
scientists looking at a crashed disk

1243
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,000
[Music]

1244
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:02,480
dr sarbacher enters the picture because

1245
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,880
he worked for the

1246
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,800
american defense research board the

1247
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,720
equivalent of ours

1248
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:10,720
the cybocker's work is in

1249
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,359
guided missiles missile propulsion

1250
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:15,599
and it's it's as if everybody was in a

1251
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:25,430
in a position to know each know each

1252
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,319
other or know of each other's worth

1253
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,319
smith got his wish

1254
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,559
and the resulting handwritten notes from

1255
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:34,640
his meeting with sarbacher

1256
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:37,599
became the basis of project magnet

1257
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:40,880
smith and the saucers do exist

1258
00:51:49,010 --> 00:51:47,190
do they operate as scully suggested on

1259
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:49,020
magnetic principles

1260
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,480
[Music]

1261
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,480
we have not been able to duplicate their

1262
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:54,800
performance

1263
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,559
still do they come from other planets

1264
00:52:01,190 --> 00:52:00,319
starbucker all we know

1265
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:01,200
is

1266
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:03,200
we didn't make them and it's pretty

1267
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,800
certain they didn't originate on this

1268
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:06,559
earth

1269
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:07,760
if i understand the whole subject of

1270
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,640
sausage is classified

1271
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:12,319
yes it is classified two points higher

1272
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,240
even than the h-bomb and in fact it is

1273
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:15,920
the most highly classified subject in

1274
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:24,630
a key

1275
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:26,720
thing for me was number three that their

1276
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:29,359
modus operandi how they work this is yet

1277
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,880
unknown but there's a small group

1278
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,400
working under dr

1279
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,079
vanavar bush

1280
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,240
and he was a very important figure in

1281
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:38,079
the united states

1282
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:39,760
in technology development like the

1283
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,240
manhattan project and proximity fuse and

1284
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,559
radar and so top dog

1285
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:46,559
no question

1286
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,520
the canadian government encouraged smith

1287
00:52:53,110 --> 00:52:51,200
in project magnet

1288
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:53,120
but on a canadian budget

1289
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,480
[Music]

1290
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:56,800
they gave him a little building a little

1291
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,960
shack here in shirley's bay

1292
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,559
and he equipped it with the equipment

1293
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,319
that he borrowed from the department

1294
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,920
from the university of toronto

1295
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:08,000
and the defense research board there was

1296
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,440
equipment in there for measuring

1297
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,680
electromagnetic energy disturbances for

1298
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:13,040
measuring

1299
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:17,920
gamma ray x-ray type atomic disturbances

1300
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,680
and the idea was he would have all of

1301
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:22,079
this set up and run it 24 hours a day in

1302
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:23,520
the hopes that

1303
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,720
if a ufo came by it might be detected by

1304
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,359
one or two of these instruments

1305
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:31,839
it's dedication i love it

1306
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:35,839
on august 3rd 1954 a large magnetic

1307
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:37,839
disturbance overhead tripped the

1308
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:40,640
detection station's alarm bells

1309
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:48,710
smith declared that whatever flew over

1310
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:51,280
ottawa that day had a greater magnetic

1311
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:00,150
nice

1312
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:06,309
so what was it smith was so excited by

1313
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,720
his achievement he wrote a press release

1314
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,559
that was immediately picked up on wire

1315
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:12,640
services and transmitted around the

1316
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:16,549
[Music]

1317
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,800
his superiors found themselves in an

1318
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,720
awkward position

1319
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:22,319
they met with smith

1320
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,119
and told him what he had to do

1321
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,599
and smith ended up shutting down the

1322
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:29,200
station

1323
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:31,119
at that time especially maybe not as bad

1324
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,720
now but at that time

1325
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:34,880
talk of flying saucers

1326
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:37,359
was not taken in a very positive light

1327
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,799
you know you were nuts

1328
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:40,079
and here you have a department of

1329
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:41,200
transport

1330
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:43,520
a public

1331
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:46,000
i'm sorry see this is what pisses me off

1332
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,839
anytime these organizations institutions

1333
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:51,359
whatever um

1334
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,319
once they finally get something

1335
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,359
and even come to some conclusions

1336
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,760
that don't rest in the conventional i

1337
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,240
guess realm um that's when they're

1338
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,880
shuttered i mean we did we talked all

1339
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:07,359
about um world ufo

1340
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,920
investigations on ancient aliens this

1341
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,559
past week and we talked about france and

1342
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:14,319
we talked about

1343
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:18,079
australia and japan and the mod and i

1344
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:20,160
believe it was in france with their

1345
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:22,799
program that one of their conclusions by

1346
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:26,079
the end was that this what some of these

1347
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,200
ufos represented represented was most

1348
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,280
likely extraterrestrial

1349
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,079
and then the program was shut down so

1350
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,559
this i hate hearing this that the minute

1351
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,079
something finally happens the minute

1352
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,760
this gets out to the public they're like

1353
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,480
nope stop stop stop we're done we're

1354
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:44,160
done looking at it we thought you never

1355
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:47,040
find anything you did so we're done

1356
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,040
just pisses me off anyway sorry guys

1357
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:51,119
they're butt in

1358
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,160
group

1359
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,000
uh whether with the flying saucer

1360
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:56,319
research station attached to it so his

1361
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:59,200
people were quite upset with all of this

1362
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:00,960
again we have the noisy negativist

1363
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:02,880
saying one guy said oh he was

1364
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,960
demonstrably crazy

1365
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,960
he said that on a television program and

1366
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,319
of course i had to jump in and say you

1367
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,559
know that's tommy rod

1368
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:12,720
just total nonsense

1369
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:15,200
he did die of a brain tumor okay

1370
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:17,200
i'm not gonna blame him for that

1371
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,319
you know

1372
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:21,119
so i think wilbur smith deserves our

1373
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:23,520
approval our applause

1374
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:25,520
for all the effort he put into

1375
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:27,920
to the whole ufo question

1376
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:30,240
and his willingness to dig deeply into

1377
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:31,839
what was considered

1378
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:38,710
but by talking to the press had smith

1379
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:41,760
compromised the secrets of mj-12

1380
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:44,319
an american saucer retrieval program

1381
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,960
that is revealed in these documents

1382
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,720
those documents are the most important

1383
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,400
government documents

1384
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:52,160
classified documents ever leaked to the

1385
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:53,119
public

1386
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,960
because in summary they establish if

1387
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,799
they're genuine which i believe they are

1388
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:59,280
based on detailed careful scientific

1389
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:01,119
investigation

1390
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,160
that a

1391
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:04,559
flying saucers are real

1392
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:05,599
that the united states government has

1393
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,680
recovered oh no he's talking about fj12

1394
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,319
what's up about standing group of people

1395
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,799
to deal with it just my thoughts

1396
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,880
and that aliens aren't

1397
00:57:19,580 --> 00:57:18,319
infallible

1398
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:19,590
one crashed

1399
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:26,789
if the americans did salvage a flying

1400
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:30,319
saucer at roswell back in 1947

1401
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:33,680
is it possible that a ufo was recovered

1402
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:36,720
in shag harbor i was hoping to avoid all

1403
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,799
the controversy that had surrounded

1404
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:40,880
other known ufo crash scenarios such as

1405
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:43,680
in roswell and to be honest initially i

1406
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:46,240
largely ignored it i wasn't impressed by

1407
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:48,079
it whatsoever

1408
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,040
impressed or not it was a story that

1409
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:53,440
would not go away but it was being told

1410
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:55,440
by the former military

1411
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,359
staff that were involved in search

1412
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:59,520
effort was that while

1413
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,760
a search was going on in the sound of

1414
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:03,599
shag harbor

1415
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:05,920
military personnel already knew that the

1416
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,079
object was no longer there on the seabed

1417
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:10,319
that it had moved away under the water

1418
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:12,079
rounded cape sable island had gone up

1419
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:14,400
the coast come to rest on the seabed off

1420
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:17,599
the coast of government point

1421
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:20,799
which was the location of cfs shelburne

1422
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:24,050
canada's most secret military base

1423
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,589
canadian forces base shelburne was a

1424
00:58:47,349 --> 00:58:44,799
joint canadian american military base

1425
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:47,359
shut down after the thawing of the cold

1426
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:52,549
over the years a cover story had been

1427
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,520
put out

1428
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:55,839
to explain this base away as being an

1429
00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:59,520
oceanographical uh study base to study

1430
00:59:05,109 --> 00:59:02,160
wave action the depth of water salinity

1431
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:05,119
of water whatever supposedly to aid the

1432
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,760
navies of both our countries and

1433
00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:09,359
better understanding

1434
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:14,950
and it wasn't until really in the 80s

1435
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,799
that it really became known as for what

1436
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:18,400
it really was which was a secret

1437
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:19,599
submarine

1438
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:26,950
sorry

1439
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:32,400
famous documentary filmmaker good day

1440
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:34,720
ryan what a wonderful documentary

1441
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:37,440
can't wait to see uh see your watch

1442
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:40,400
along of the west all 66 a suburban ufo

1443
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:43,119
mystery 2. cheers from canberra the

1444
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,440
ottawa of the south shane i would love

1445
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:47,760
to do a watch along with your doc man um

1446
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:49,599
if that's possible i don't want to do

1447
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,520
any copyright infringement you know i

1448
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:53,119
did pull some strings to get this one

1449
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:55,599
going tonight um please let me know

1450
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,200
please let me know i would love to do a

1451
01:00:02,630 --> 00:59:59,440
watch along over that as well all right

1452
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:02,640
guys back to shag harbor thanks for

1453
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:05,359
dropping in man i really appreciate that

1454
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:07,839
uh detecting submarines all over the

1455
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:09,440
north atlantic

1456
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:11,839
the operation was part of the suso

1457
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:14,240
system an underwater network of

1458
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:16,240
microphones deployed throughout the

1459
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:17,760
north atlantic

1460
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,400
the signals were channeled ashore to cfs

1461
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:22,799
shelburne at government point

1462
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,559
where they were monitored 24 hours a day

1463
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:29,119
in addition to that they had another uh

1464
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:31,119
grid laid out under the water which was

1465
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:33,119
called the mad grid or magnetic anomaly

1466
01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:34,640
detection grid

1467
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:36,799
which could detect uh the hall

1468
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:38,319
signatures of

1469
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:40,000
heavy metal vessels

1470
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:42,640
submarines in particular and they could

1471
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:44,880
pinpoint them on a grid as to where

1472
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:46,240
these particular vessels were when they

1473
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:48,400
were picked up

1474
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,119
but why would the ufo travel to

1475
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:52,799
government point

1476
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:54,559
you have to understand that shelbourne

1477
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,559
is part of a system for monitoring the

1478
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,640
atlantic ocean

1479
01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:00,480
for the soviet fleet but more

1480
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:03,119
importantly if you're sold in submarines

1481
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:05,920
and so you're always concerned

1482
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:08,880
about any coming anybody anything coming

1483
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:11,680
within view of your sensing systems

1484
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:13,280
and you want to know how vulnerable you

1485
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:14,559
are

1486
01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:16,960
because maybe this is something before

1487
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:18,400
an attack

1488
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:19,680
first thing you do is knock out the

1489
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:21,920
other guy's detection system

1490
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:23,280
not that electric guitar in the

1491
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,960
background

1492
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:26,559
this is so cool so what i'm saying is

1493
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:28,960
there's a part of a much larger picture

1494
01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:30,960
it's nice to talk about saucers landing

1495
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:32,559
on the white house lawn you know but in

1496
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,920
the real world

1497
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,359
there are all kinds of electronic

1498
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,359
barriers fences call them

1499
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:39,040
detection systems

1500
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:41,839
and i would be astonished

1501
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:44,079
if alien visitors didn't pay attention

1502
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:44,960
to

1503
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:47,440
their own self-interest if nothing else

1504
01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:50,480
self-interest or they do not give an f

1505
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:52,799
the sophisticated equipment that cfs

1506
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,640
shelburne held told them this thing was

1507
01:01:57,420 --> 01:01:56,559
simply a few miles off the coast resting

1508
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:57,430
on the seabed

1509
01:02:01,990 --> 01:01:59,839
[Music]

1510
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:02,000
i was told that a flotilla of ships was

1511
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:04,240
quickly assembled over the resting

1512
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,990
in addition to the naval activity on the

1513
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:10,960
water

1514
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,200
air force neptunes from summerside

1515
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:15,680
prince edward island flew grid patterns

1516
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:16,960
over the area

1517
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:19,359
using hydrophones and radar to search

1518
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:25,980
navy divers dove on the primary target

1519
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:28,400
[Music]

1520
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:31,280
what the divers told me simply was that

1521
01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:33,200
there was an operation at the molten

1522
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:35,359
shell burn harbor and

1523
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:37,680
they held station on chips and doves

1524
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:39,680
over a period of one week

1525
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:41,839
over what was an apparent ufo on the

1526
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,720
bottom

1527
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:44,640
and that it was uh

1528
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:46,559
being assisted by a second craft that

1529
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:49,200
was somehow lending assistance to it one

1530
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:50,720
of the expressions they used was there's

1531
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:52,960
still activity going on down there he's

1532
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,400
been claimed to have been in the water

1533
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,400
and watched us at a fairly close range

1534
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:58,319
as they were placing cameras and sensors

1535
01:03:02,470 --> 01:02:59,839
etc

1536
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:02,480
it's an incredible tale not only did

1537
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:04,799
they see objects down there

1538
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:06,240
things as well

1539
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,680
and we sort of have to leave that in

1540
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,359
your your own imagination as to what

1541
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,680
these things were totally

1542
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:13,200
certain or at least this particular

1543
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:14,720
diver is certain that they

1544
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:19,910
he was definitely afraid to go any

1545
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:21,760
further than that because of the fact

1546
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:23,920
that he was with the military and what

1547
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:25,760
we understand was not allowed to talk

1548
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:26,720
about them

1549
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,640
not only does he say that but we've had

1550
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:30,319
evidence of other military personnel

1551
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:32,400
involved in this operation who say the

1552
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,920
same thing they're not allowed to talk

1553
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:35,280
about it on camera they don't want their

1554
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,640
names mentioned

1555
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:39,119
for fear of re some reprisals whatever

1556
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:40,960
that may be we don't know

1557
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:44,400
maybe they'll start coming forward now

1558
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,799
other military personnel that were at

1559
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:49,200
this operation in a support role

1560
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,640
have suggested that there was a great

1561
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:52,480
deal of tension in the operation between

1562
01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:54,799
american and canadian personnel

1563
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:57,680
at one point one of the officers felt

1564
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:59,440
necessary to intervene at one of these

1565
01:04:02,230 --> 01:04:01,039
discussions that was spilling out around

1566
01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:02,240
the mess

1567
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:05,039
and he tried to contain it and tell the

1568
01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:08,000
diver to keep the comments down and that

1569
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:09,440
you know they shouldn't be talking about

1570
01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:12,559
the operation over the russian sub and

1571
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:14,240
to which the diver responds saying i

1572
01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:15,920
don't know what that goddamn thing is

1573
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:18,319
down there but it's no submarine it

1574
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:20,880
isn't anything from this planet and like

1575
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:23,680
you can say whatever you want but we

1576
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:31,430
but what evidence is there to support

1577
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:34,799
the events off government point

1578
01:04:41,029 --> 01:04:37,359
does this recently uncovered x-file lend

1579
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:41,039
credibility to the diver's claims

1580
01:04:49,710 --> 01:04:44,450
and what happened to the ufos

1581
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:52,710
[Music]

1582
01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:55,280
until recently the tale of the shag

1583
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:58,079
harbor ufo's journey to government point

1584
01:05:03,109 --> 01:05:00,079
where it was detected and observed by

1585
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:03,119
the military has remained a secret

1586
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:04,880
in 1993

1587
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:08,160
this top secret rcmp x-file was

1588
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:10,240
accidentally discovered in the nova

1589
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:13,520
scotia university archive yes let's

1590
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:16,640
review our cnp next file that does make

1591
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:18,640
mention of a second search effort off

1592
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:20,880
shelburne again when we go to the flap

1593
01:05:25,029 --> 01:05:23,599
that was unfolding over nova scotia

1594
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:25,039
there is mention

1595
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:27,599
by a fisherman who made an official

1596
01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:30,480
report to the rcmp detachment

1597
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:32,160
his second last sentence of the

1598
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,520
statement is very telling in that it

1599
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:35,440
says perhaps it is like the thing they

1600
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:37,680
were looking for down off barrington

1601
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:42,000
passage or shag harbor or off shelburne

1602
01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:44,079
this seems to give some indication that

1603
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:46,079
there was indeed a second and

1604
01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:52,710
and one week later

1605
01:05:57,109 --> 01:05:55,119
our former 12-mile limit was violated by

1606
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:57,119
a soviet submarine that was approaching

1607
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:00,240
this thing the ship's broke station

1608
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:02,960
sailed toward the approaching submarine

1609
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:05,680
to show challenge at this point the ufos

1610
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:08,319
on the bottom become active move under

1611
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:10,559
the water back down to the gulf of maine

1612
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:13,039
break the surface and fly away

1613
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,000
okay so that is exactly what i was

1614
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,799
talking about earlier so i mean okay

1615
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,240
we'll get back to it in just a second

1616
01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:22,400
but this to me like the fact that these

1617
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:24,319
russian subs were now breaching the

1618
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:26,240
barriers of where they were supposed to

1619
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:29,359
be in the water um and

1620
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:30,160
while

1621
01:06:44,829 --> 01:06:30,880
the

1622
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,839
highly advanced top secret russian thing

1623
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:46,880
or like

1624
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:49,359
were the russians working with the ufos

1625
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:52,480
with the et's with whatever they were or

1626
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:54,160
was this all by habit states and the

1627
01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:56,240
ufos are like whoa okay they're not here

1628
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,160
let's bounce um

1629
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:00,400
that's crazy that's crazy to me no

1630
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:03,200
matter what it was what a crazy string

1631
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:05,200
of events to happen during the shag

1632
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:08,079
harbor ufo incident i'm sorry that just

1633
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:09,839
uh blows my mind all right let's get

1634
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:11,520
back to it let's get back to it enough

1635
01:07:17,150 --> 01:07:12,799
of me

1636
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:17,160
soviet [\h__\h] as usual

1637
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:19,359
[Music]

1638
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:20,640
to date

1639
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:23,039
the military has not released any

1640
01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:25,280
documentation that would lend credence

1641
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,079
to a retrieval operation at shelburne

1642
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:30,480
but that doesn't deter chris and don in

1643
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:33,359
their investigation

1644
01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:34,880
i don't know who would have been in

1645
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:36,880
charge and overseeing such an extensive

1646
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:38,960
operation off the coastal shelburne but

1647
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:41,440
i do know from discussing with dnd staff

1648
01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:44,240
in ottawa that they deny having any role

1649
01:07:50,549 --> 01:07:48,630
i've often wondered whether

1650
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:50,559
now anything could be found off of

1651
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:53,200
government point i seriously doubt it if

1652
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,240
this thing as the story goes was as big

1653
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,319
an operation as we believe it was i

1654
01:08:01,990 --> 01:07:59,920
can't imagine them leaving anything on

1655
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:02,000
the bottom for anybody else to find

1656
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:08,950
will someday offer up her secrets

1657
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:10,799
hard to believe this was a

1658
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:13,119
top secret military base at one time

1659
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:14,880
yeah looking at it today i can't really

1660
01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:16,640
picture it as being the coordination

1661
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:19,279
center of anything but

1662
01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:21,120
i suppose back during the cold war it

1663
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:22,719
was probably pretty [\h__\h] and spam back

1664
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:24,400
when old glory flew over there beside

1665
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:26,080
our own flag there you gotta wonder

1666
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:27,839
whether uh maybe it was kept this way on

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01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:29,839
purpose and make it look canal you know

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01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,480
uh not draw attention you know to throw

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01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:34,400
off what the true purpose of the base

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01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:36,640
was and as part of the small but

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01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,520
determined band of ufo investigators

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01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:40,880
worldwide

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01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:42,799
they continue to search

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01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:45,440
for the troops behind the lights

1675
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:47,199
and if you're asking me

1676
01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:49,040
what does shag harbor have to offer i

1677
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,719
believe in me and ultimately a greater

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01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:53,040
understanding of the ufo phenomena if we

1679
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:55,040
can truly take the case to another level

1680
01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,560
and tie down those things we missed

1681
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:58,560
whether it's the one big thing or the

1682
01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,560
one little thing we've missed we'll know

1683
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:02,159
better what's really going on in the

1684
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,239
skies are these things penetrating our

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01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:06,560
skies and defense system probably you

1686
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,640
betcha can this case shed light on it

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01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:10,159
sure

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01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,719
is it the best case maybe maybe not the

1689
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,239
best one is the one that hasn't happened

1690
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:16,480
yet the the best one is the one where we

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01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,159
walk in and we have a piece of physical

1692
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,319
evidence that is undisputedly of

1693
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:22,239
extraterrestrial origin and i can throw

1694
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:25,120
it on the stage and it hits with a claim

1695
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:27,710
that's when i'll be happy

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01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:33,910
department of national defense

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01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,359
transferred nine of their most promising

1698
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,279
ufo cases including shaykh harbor the

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01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:39,759
national research council of canada

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01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:42,239
i missed that last one

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01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:50,950
so x-files

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01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:53,669
[Music]

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01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,239
sorry guys i love credits as a creative

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01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:58,560
and filmmaker i love seeing who made

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01:10:13,610 --> 01:10:06,590
we will debrief in just a moment

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01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:27,480
[Music]

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01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:48,470
um

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01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:54,870
so

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01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:01,750
[Music]

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01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:22,880
we made it we made it through the

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01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,120
credits and only two people left i love

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01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:27,440
it

1713
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,669
what's up adrian adrian reister's here

1714
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,239
guys he was our guest uh last week on

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01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:38,960
the podcast if you haven't listened to

1716
01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:41,600
his episode please please please check

1717
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:46,159
it out um he had some crazy ufo and

1718
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,120
high strangeness events happen while he

1719
01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:51,600
was stationed at whiteman air force base

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01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,880
while

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01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,199
nukes were being transported as well so

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01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:57,280
adrian thanks for being here my man

1723
01:12:02,709 --> 01:11:59,760
thank you everyone for watching along to

1724
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,719
the shag harbor ufo incident documentary

1725
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:04,320
that is seriously one of the best

1726
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:07,440
documentaries i've seen on ufos bar none

1727
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:10,480
um and it just it amazes me that not a

1728
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:13,679
lot of people have seen it before um but

1729
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:16,560
it brought back so many memories of um

1730
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:19,280
me going to nova scotia and going over

1731
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,880
those choppy waters and hoping against

1732
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:24,320
hope that i would see something out

1733
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,800
there happen again but alas it did not

1734
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:28,800
but they have a really cool shag harbor

1735
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,360
ufo museum out there so if you're ever

1736
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:33,360
in that area be sure to check it out

1737
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:36,560
it's so cool um i did want to bring up

1738
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:39,280
you know what what's kind of new with

1739
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:42,719
this case i mean not a lot it is

1740
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:43,679
you know

1741
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:45,520
it is lore at this point like a lot of

1742
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,520
cases are but um in 2018 this comes from

1743
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:51,360
my article at medium about the shag

1744
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:53,280
harbor incident again i think i threw

1745
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:55,600
the link at the top of the chat there um

1746
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:58,800
if not just type in medium shag harbor

1747
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:00,880
ryan sprague the article should show up

1748
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,040
but the cousteaus actually took a look

1749
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:06,000
at this case so in 2018 it was announced

1750
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,560
that celine costello and fabian castell

1751
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:10,480
grandchildren of jacques cousteau were

1752
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:12,239
heading to nova scotia to investigate

1753
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,000
the incident as part of their visit

1754
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:15,760
their investigative team would carry out

1755
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,320
an underwater search to try to locate

1756
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:20,400
the craft that could possibly still sit

1757
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:22,719
at the bottom of the water

1758
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:24,320
while their deep sea investigation did

1759
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:26,800
not yield the craft or materials

1760
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:30,159
anomalous activity was recorded between

1761
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,560
the radio transmissions while underwater

1762
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:34,640
when in proximity to where the craft was

1763
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:36,800
said to have submerged

1764
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:39,760
really really really cool um

1765
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:41,360
so yeah i thought it was pretty cool

1766
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:43,600
that even the customs got involved in

1767
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:46,480
the shank harbor ufo incident which is

1768
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:49,440
so cool um and then we have this whole

1769
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:52,320
idea of transmedium travel this thing

1770
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:54,719
apparently went from space

1771
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:57,600
to the atmosphere into the water and

1772
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:00,560
then out again if we are to assume that

1773
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:03,040
you know this was one object or a piece

1774
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:05,120
of an object it was down there for a

1775
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:07,520
while messed around with the navy and

1776
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:10,560
then got out of there um

1777
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:13,040
transmedium i mean observables right

1778
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:15,520
there which i think is so cool so um

1779
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:18,480
yeah yeah i thought this is again

1780
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:20,320
worth everyone's time to watch i really

1781
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:22,480
appreciate you guys sticking around

1782
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:25,120
and watching this with me um fast of

1783
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:26,960
night thank you so much for the super

1784
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,960
chat really enjoy the doc consider this

1785
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,960
my admission ticket

1786
01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:32,719
i really appreciate that man your

1787
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:35,199
support truly truly means the world to

1788
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:38,159
me i i really really mean that and oh we

1789
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:39,440
have another one here

1790
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:42,960
um to kamano islander thank you for

1791
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:45,199
showing this it was fascinating ripsta

1792
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:48,239
and friedman and john dunsworth aka jim

1793
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:51,040
leahy trailer park supervisor that i did

1794
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:53,040
not know that one of the trailer park

1795
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,000
boys cast was the the um the narrator

1796
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:58,320
that's pretty cool and yes yes ripped to

1797
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:01,520
stan friedman and john dunsworth as well

1798
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:04,719
um stanton actually i will never forget

1799
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:07,679
this i had the amazing opportunity to

1800
01:15:14,229 --> 01:15:11,040
see stan give his world famous um flying

1801
01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:14,239
sausage our real lecture and i got to

1802
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:17,120
see it in nova scotia of all places and

1803
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,719
this was maybe

1804
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:20,880
gosh i don't know five six months before

1805
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:23,679
he eventually passed away so i got to

1806
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:26,880
see his last talk ever given in canada

1807
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:28,800
so i will always hold that dear to my

1808
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:30,880
heart i got to see the talk that made

1809
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:34,480
him famous and and i got to see him ride

1810
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:38,320
around in a convertible um with mike

1811
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:40,320
hanks my good buddy and a few other of

1812
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,480
the amazing people there paul kimball

1813
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:44,640
who put this um event together that we

1814
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:47,679
spoke at and it was just a memory i will

1815
01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:50,080
cherish forever and actually i had the

1816
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:52,239
amazing opportunity to interview stanton

1817
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:54,880
on the 50th episode of somewhere in the

1818
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,120
sky so go back in the archives and check

1819
01:16:02,149 --> 01:15:59,360
that out if you haven't we talked a lot

1820
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:02,159
about his life and his career and where

1821
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:05,040
he stood at the you know the latter part

1822
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:08,000
of his life on everything from roswell

1823
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:10,960
to mj12 to to shag arbor and everything

1824
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:14,159
in between it was just a mind-blowing

1825
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:17,760
two hours of conversation um that i will

1826
01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:19,679
never forget if you don't want to go

1827
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,320
back in the archives i will be replaying

1828
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:24,719
the sam freeman interview in in i

1829
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,520
believe it's march when he passed away

1830
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:29,440
so i'm going to um replay it on the

1831
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:31,520
summer on this guy's feet for you guys

1832
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:33,440
and give some commentary and whatnot as

1833
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:35,440
well so i hope you will check that out

1834
01:16:39,910 --> 01:16:37,440
soon but thank you guys thank you for

1835
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,920
the super chats oop i missed one i got

1836
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:41,280
another one here

1837
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:42,640
um

1838
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:44,480
to metal hendricks thank you i finally

1839
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:46,480
made it live really love the eyewitness

1840
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,719
episodes too keep up the good work ryan

1841
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:50,719
thank you thank you for your support and

1842
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:52,400
thank you for listening to the show i

1843
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:53,840
should have a new witness accounts

1844
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:57,760
episode coming out very soon um i've got

1845
01:17:02,229 --> 01:16:59,920
i think three or four stories that have

1846
01:17:04,149 --> 01:17:02,239
been submitted to me in the past couple

1847
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:04,159
months so i'll be able to compile those

1848
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,080
soon put them together into another

1849
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:08,400
witness accounts episode so thank you

1850
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:09,760
metal hendricks if you're not familiar

1851
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,520
with our witness accounts episodes these

1852
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:13,600
are where you come on and tell your ufo

1853
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:16,239
story in your own words i'm not there

1854
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:18,320
you record these yourselves and you

1855
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,000
recall the event and you tell me how it

1856
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:22,159
made you feel and and what you think it

1857
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:24,480
was and um where do you stand on it now

1858
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:26,000
and these are some of the most popular

1859
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:28,480
episodes of summer in the skies so

1860
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:30,640
if you want to be a part of it please

1861
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:33,920
reach out to me um on social media or

1862
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:35,920
just go to somewhere in the skies.com

1863
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,480
use the contact tab so if you have a ufo

1864
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:40,480
story of your own i would love to hear

1865
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:42,000
it i know our listeners would love to

1866
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:43,840
hear it and the more people that do that

1867
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:46,239
the more normal this topic becomes and

1868
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,560
it's more normal and embraced now more

1869
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:50,640
than ever so please consider submitting

1870
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,679
to our witness accounts episodes um i'm

1871
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:56,000
just gonna go to a few of the um

1872
01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:57,120
to the

1873
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,120
things here um adrian says transmedium

1874
01:18:02,229 --> 01:18:01,199
is crazy [\h__\h] yeah tell me about it

1875
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:02,239
adrian

1876
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:04,320
the fact that this object did all of

1877
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:07,840
that supposedly is pretty amazing

1878
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:11,199
um let's see what else um

1879
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:13,120
steven segal says my dad did electrical

1880
01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:15,360
work for the customs during the 80s and

1881
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:17,679
ended up taking a job at nasa at their

1882
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:19,760
insistence they were really cool about

1883
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:22,800
exploring all sorts of stuff i i think

1884
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:24,560
that's awesome the fact that they were

1885
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:27,360
part of a ufo event is just incredible

1886
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:29,520
incredible jason says very fortunate i

1887
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,920
felt very fortunate man i'm i i believe

1888
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,360
you're referring to the sam friedman

1889
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:35,760
thing so yeah yeah

1890
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,239
let's see great chat teddy says thank

1891
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:41,360
you thank you so much guys um

1892
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:43,440
witness accounts rule thank you thank

1893
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,159
you guys that's all you guys again like

1894
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:48,239
tonight um i put all the pressure on

1895
01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:51,360
this documentary and it delivered in my

1896
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:54,239
opinion i might watch it again to be

1897
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:56,640
honest tonight i might actually um and i

1898
01:19:03,430 --> 01:18:59,440
didn't even notice actually that i'm i'm

1899
01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:03,440
drinking scotch from scotland and um

1900
01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:06,560
nova scotia new scotland hello didn't

1901
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:08,560
even mean to do that i swear it was

1902
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:09,600
meant to be

1903
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:12,800
uh

1904
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:15,199
wow i i've clearly had too much scotch

1905
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:16,080
so we

1906
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:18,159
better start winding things up knight

1907
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:19,600
goes there says well i'm not currently

1908
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:21,360
in salmon but i've been there a few

1909
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:23,679
times um that's clearly part of the

1910
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:25,920
conversation i was not privy to

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01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,800
um

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01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:29,280
all right guys i think that's about it

1913
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:30,239
again

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01:19:36,070 --> 01:19:33,600
please stay tuned this week for a very

1915
01:19:38,110 --> 01:19:36,080
very special article coming out at the

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01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:38,120
deep brief check out

1917
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:41,280
debriefmedia.org for that um

1918
01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:43,520
and then friday after the article comes

1919
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:45,120
out head on over to somewhere in the

1920
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:47,280
skies right here on youtube we're doing

1921
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:51,440
a live stream with two very

1922
01:19:56,310 --> 01:19:53,920
very interesting guests and my new

1923
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:56,320
co-host of somewhere in the skies i am

1924
01:20:01,030 --> 01:19:58,000
so excited i want to tell you right now

1925
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:01,040
but i can't okay um so yeah please look

1926
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:03,040
out for that check out our latest

1927
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:04,480
episode of somewhere in the skies the

1928
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:08,080
abductions of denise stoner and um look

1929
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:10,080
for more of those episodes in the future

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these audio docs that i do where i tell

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ufo stories and have actors come in and

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voice things and include sound bites i

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love making those i really really do and

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apparently you guys love them too

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they're some of the most downloaded

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episodes so i'm going to be doing a lot

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more of those in the very near future as

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well but um other than that

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check out ancient aliens every friday at

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9 00 p.m on the history channel i'm

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featured in quite a few episodes this

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season um we just did two of them the

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disclosure event and the world on alert

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and um i don't think there's a new

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episode next week but after that i'm

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gonna be featured in another episode

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where we explore the ark of the covenant

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something not really in my wheelhouse

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but i did a ton of research and i hope i

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brought something to the episode if i

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didn't you're not gonna see me in it um

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but yeah look for that on the history

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channel 9 p.m

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eight central um

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and other than that uh i believe that's

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all i got guys

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check us out on twitter at

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somewhereskies on instagram at

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summerskiespod please like this video

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please share this video and please

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subscribe to the channel um it really

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helps more than i can possibly even

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convey

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thank you for joining me tonight and um

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thank you thank you for listening to the

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show watching and everything i could not

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do this without you guys i truly

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appreciate all of your support i really

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really genuinely do so

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i will leave you with our mantra here at

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somewhere in the skies as always keep

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your feet on the ground but never stop

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searching somewhere

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in shack harbor

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would you like that one yeah

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i thought you would i thought you would

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have a good night guys take care

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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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spread